1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Final part of Crazy Rulers of the World and presenter John Ronson will be online for a live web chat after the program. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Your Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States. 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:33,800 America sees itself as a no-nonsense place. Its solid values are instilled in its people by rational leaders. 4 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,800 But what happens when the people discover that their leaders have crazy beliefs? 5 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:50,800 There is an appetite for hocus pocus inside the highest places in the US government, in the army and the intelligence services. 6 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,800 Sometimes special forces soldiers try and give themselves superhuman powers. 7 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,800 We had a master sergeant that could stop the heart of a goat. 8 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Well just by looking at it. 9 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Just by wanting the goats heart to stop. 10 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:18,800 This series has so far been about paranormal experiments conducted secretly inside military bases in America and brought to life inside shipping containers in Iraq. 11 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,800 But this film is about how deadly the crazy ideas can get when they leak out into the everyday world. 12 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,800 During the Cold War, the US Army secretly put half a dozen soldiers into this building. 13 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Their job for decades was to try and be psychic. 14 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,800 We were foot soldiers, we were sort of psychic foot soldiers in the Cold War. 15 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,800 We were the prostitutes of the intelligence community. Everybody wanted us under the cover of darkness. 16 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Came to us and said, can you give us some information here? We have nothing to go on. 17 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,800 But no one wanted to deal with us in the light of day. No one. 18 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:13,800 We were in condemned buildings. We went to property disposal to get our desks and our typewriters and stuff like that. 19 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,800 We didn't exist. So how could we get supplies? 20 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,800 But the nature of the job turned many of the secret psychic spies stir crazy. 21 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,800 When you start looking at remote viewing, you're looking at producing information that violates space-time. 22 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Then your reality starts coming unglued. And if you're not real stable, you know, there's no telling what you'll believe. 23 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:49,800 And so the unit was closed down in 1995 and the psychic spies emerged into the strangest world of all, 24 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,800 the private sector, where they became psychic spying teachers. 25 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:01,800 This film tells the story of the terrible things that have happened since. 26 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:11,800 Our story begins at a military psychic spying reunion convention at the Double Tree Hotel in Austin, Texas in 2002. 27 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:21,800 Will you bend for me tonight? It says yes. OK? You'll find that on some of these it says no. 28 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:28,800 If it says no, don't spend the evening trying to bend that spoon. It's not going to work. 29 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,800 The spoon can be more hard headed than you can. 30 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,800 I thought I was here to tell a history story about Cold War paranormal experiments, 31 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:45,800 but it turns out that this is no longer a history story. The psychic spies are back and fighting the war on terror. 32 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,800 When President Bush said to, for all of his agents to think outside the box, 33 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:58,800 what actually filtered down was that the government will not use these sources, 34 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,800 but the individual agents are now free to use them privately. 35 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Some were in this room are intelligence aid, so I don't know which ones they are, 36 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:22,800 but I do know that they are here to recruit psychics who might be able to predict future al-Qaeda attacks. 37 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,800 This woman, Prudence Calabrese, is already working psychically for the FBI. 38 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,800 London is an area of high concern. It is certainly an area we've looked at, 39 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,800 and there's reason to be concerned if you live in London. 40 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 So London basically is one of the... 41 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,800 I'd say that there's a high probability of something occurring in London. 42 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,800 When? What month? 43 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,800 What time? 44 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Yeah, what time? 2.30 in the morning. 45 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Yeah, really, we're not at liberty to give any more information other than what we've given so far on this publicly. 46 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Prudence wasn't in the military psychic unit, but she's invited to the reunion convention anyway. 47 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,800 She's a leading civilian psychic from San Diego. 48 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:22,800 A week after 9-11, the FBI phoned her. They wanted her prophecies, and she fedexed back London. 49 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,800 But you're sure you're right? 50 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,800 We have never been wrong. We know the location, like what the sector will say. 51 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Like landmark? Yeah. 52 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Kind of houses a parliament type landmark. 53 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Um... 54 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,800 I'm not going to tell you. 55 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,800 I'm not going to tell you. 56 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,800 We're surely not fucking in the palace. 57 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,800 I might tell you off camera. 58 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Oh, yeah. 59 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Prudence said she'd think about telling me what parts of London I should avoid during the next 18 months. 60 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Then, when I got back downstairs, this man took me urgently to one side. 61 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,800 He said he was alarmed to see me talking to Prudence. 62 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:13,800 He's a former military psychic called Paul Smith, and he says the FBI are nuts to want Prudence on board. 63 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,800 When I asked why, he said for a start she once wore a Star Trek badge on national TV. 64 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,800 Did they make a point of it? 65 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,800 No. It's just folks did notice it though. 66 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,800 And is that taboo within the remote-feeling world? 67 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,800 No. I mean, I didn't have a problem with it. 68 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,800 But if you think about it, if you are trying to promote something and make this credible, 69 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,800 it would seem you'd be a little more cautious about the image you're trying to portray. 70 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,800 And of course, Star Trek, although I love Star Trek, I watch it. It is a fantasy. 71 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,800 But I could tell there was something Paul Smith wasn't telling me, 72 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 the real reason why he was so against Prudence. 73 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Then he said this. 74 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Then became the infamous Halobot Comet episode. You don't know about that? 75 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,800 No. 76 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,800 I don't know if I want to talk about this on camera. 77 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:08,800 I'm an interest of keeping harmony in the field, and she does have a bit of a checkered past in remote viewing. 78 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Paul Smith wouldn't say any more about the infamous Halobot Comet episode. 79 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,800 So once the convention was over, I drove to Prudence's house in the hope that she'd tell me. 80 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,800 I had many questions, but my emails kept bouncing back, so I decided just to turn up. 81 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,800 What was Prudence's checkered past? 82 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 What terrible thing was about to happen in London? 83 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:39,800 And how did a civilian like Prudence get mixed up in this military supernatural world? 84 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,800 Hi, we're looking for Prudence. 85 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Prudence? 86 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,800 Hi. 87 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,800 It's John. We met in Austin, Texas. I was filming you and you did the remote viewing. 88 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,800 Oh, right. Yeah, I do remember. Yeah. 89 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Can we come in? 90 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Well, right now isn't that really a good time, because can you come back tomorrow? Is it at all possible? 91 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Yeah, that's fine. Tomorrow morning. 92 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Yeah, tomorrow morning would be fine. 93 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Prudence has closed our shop. 94 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Just like that? 95 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,800 It's an enigma. We really don't know. Nobody really knows why. 96 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,800 There's speculation. 97 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800 What's the speculation? 98 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Is this on camera? 99 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Well, yeah, only because when we were with Prudence in Austin, she said she couldn't think of doing anything with her life except for remote viewing. 100 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,800 And then suddenly her websites just vanished. 101 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Yes. I think she got spooked. I think something scared her. 102 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:53,800 I think some group, some government group, you know, scared her somewhere. 103 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,800 We don't really don't know. 104 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,800 It is mysterious, isn't it? 105 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,800 It is very strange, yes. 106 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:05,800 Psychic spying seems so benign. A funny story. Could this funny story be part of something darker? 107 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,800 It's Prudence there. 108 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:16,800 I know you're out of the field. I just wish I could understand what happened. 109 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Okay. 110 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Hang up on me. 111 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Prudence has a team of 14 remote viewers. None of them would talk to me. They all seemed scared. 112 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Whatever happened, there were 14 very freaked out people in Carlsbad, San Diego. 113 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:43,800 I'm retired from the RV field. I am a private person and I wish to be left alone. Please leave me alone. 114 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,800 So what changed since Austin? 115 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:54,800 Well, I wish I could tell you more, but I can't. 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Bush's administration, the answer lies in the Bush dynasty of the past. 146 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,800 This story begins in this house in 1953. 147 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,800 I was awakened very, very early in the morning, it was before dawn. 148 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:57,800 And my bedroom was in the back there and brought out here and my mother was sitting in a sofa, not this sofa, but one in this position. 149 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:08,800 She was sitting right over here and then there were two other men here and it was this very dim November pre-dawn. 150 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 I was nine. 151 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:18,800 So I was kind of presented with this news which basically was that your father has died. 152 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:26,800 He had an accident and the accident was that he fell or jumped out of a window. 153 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:33,800 These were these kind of terms that were just kind of presented to me and I was completely stymied. 154 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:42,800 Excuse me, he did what? He fell or jumped and as a kid the issue was how do you fall out of a window? 155 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,800 What do you mean? What does that look like? Fall out of a window? 156 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,800 And why would he do that? Why? What are you talking about? 157 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,800 So at the age of nine did you ask what window did he fall out of? 158 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Yes. 159 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:00,800 What was that answer? 160 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Well it was a hotel window. 161 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:03,800 Did you ask where? 162 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Well we knew, I knew, you know the story was told from the beginning as having occurred in New York. 163 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:25,800 For 21 years all the Olsons had to go on was this vague confusing explanation of a fall or a jump. 164 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,800 And then in 1974 the whole thing exploded. 165 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,800 I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 166 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:44,800 After Nixon resigned office the government began a public house clearing of the CIA to root out abuses in the agency. 167 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:55,800 The CIA was forced to release classified documents. One of them was so bizarre and lurid and unexpected it enthralled the American people. 168 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:05,800 The Rockefeller Commission's investigation of the CIA disclosed that the agency had conducted drug tests on unsuspecting participants and one of them subsequently committed suicide. 169 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,800 It was amazing, yeah, it was amazing. It was truly amazing. 170 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,800 An army scientist, that was the label. 171 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Army scientist was drugged in 1953 with LSD. 172 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,800 By the CIA? 173 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:25,800 By the CIA, reacted badly, taken for medical attention to New York but unfortunately jumped out the window. 174 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,800 And then you go drugs, LSD, what? 175 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:39,800 I mean it was this amazing combination of enlightenment and befuddlement at the same time both about why are drugs now involved in this but also is this my father? 176 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:47,800 And at the same time, no, and it has to be my father. How many scientists were jumping out of windows in New York in 1953? 177 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,800 Apparently unbeknown to Olsen, the CIA had dropped some LSD into his after dinner liqueur. 178 00:16:53,800 --> 00:17:07,800 The CIA told Eric that his father's quantro had been spiked with LSD by a CIA operative called Sidney Gottlieb during an office camping trip in this cabin in rural Maryland. 179 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Do you have any regrets about the project? 180 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,800 I don't want to talk about it really. Why not? 181 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:21,800 I just don't want to talk about it. It's a right that you have and I have. I've gone on to other parts of my life that's in my past and that's where it's going to stay. 182 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Gottlieb was in charge of the program MKUltra, the experimental program of the effect of hallucinogenic drugs on a captured intelligence officer, a captured Air Force flyer, 183 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,800 somebody who, you know, they're all influenced by Manchurian candidate. 184 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Shoot, Bobby Raymond, through the forehead. 185 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Yes, ma'am. 186 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:52,800 The film gave the CIA the idea that a soldier's mind could be controlled so he'd act against his own free will. 187 00:17:52,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Sidney Gottlieb said he wanted to test LSD on different types of American to see if he could create a brainwashed assassin. 188 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:10,800 It seems to me that responsibility goes up the chain of command because he was doing it for an intelligence purpose. 189 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:20,800 Gottlieb was working under the orders of a close friend of the Bushes, once the Bush family lawyer, the director of the CIA, Alan Dulles. 190 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Early on Alan Dulles pretty much decided that the CIA really has to be authorized to do whatever it takes, you know, in any field. 191 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,800 He gives a talk in early 53 where he says, 192 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:39,800 mind warfare is the great battlefield of the Cold War and we have to do whatever it takes to win this. 193 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Dulles was the first person in the American intelligence arena that believed that one of the roles of an intelligence service is not unlike a great university. 194 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:59,800 You had to be a center that pulled in information from all quarters, including presumably the unconventional. 195 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Alan Dulles commanded his agents not only to spike people's drinks with LSD, but also to infiltrate seances so he could recruit clairvoyance to his mind warfare battlefield. 196 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:19,800 This is how the remote viewing program began. It was funded with leftover MK Ultra money. 197 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:28,800 The people who had been supporting us at the CIA were also involved in MK Ultra and other unsavory things. 198 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Sid Gottlieb was our very first administrator at the CIA, charming, avuncular kind of senior scientists of the Mengele School of Science. 199 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:52,800 In the 1970s, the intelligence services realized that they didn't need to infiltrate seances because they had a great psychic in their midst, this man. 200 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:59,800 The people who are acknowledged to be great, of course, are Joe McMonegal. His name is always mentioned when it comes to remote viewing successes. 201 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:06,800 What does the trigger mechanism on the Chinese nuclear weapon look like? 202 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Well, if you know where a Chinese nuclear weapon is sitting, then you can go out of body to that specific location and walk across the lab and look at the weapon sitting on the lab table and press your face down through the weapon casing. 203 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:40,800 Look at the weapon trigger mechanism, size it up, then come back and sit at a desk and draw it scale. 204 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,800 And that is something specifically that you did? 205 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,800 That's something specifically that you did. 206 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,800 And did they act on it? 207 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,800 Oh yeah, that's it. It's easily done. 208 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,800 And did it prove to be correct? 209 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,800 I can't confirm or deny that. 210 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:07,800 It had been a year since something frightening had made Prudence close down her business and she still hadn't been in touch. 211 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:18,800 The link between the psychics and the darker mind control programs made me think that maybe Prudence had got herself mixed up in a world where she was out of her depth. 212 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,800 I looked back at the year old tapes of the psychics spying reunion convention. 213 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,800 For some strange reason the organizers had banned the delegates from actually doing any psychics spying. 214 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Prudence had sensed that I wasn't entirely convinced that psychics fighting the war on terror was a good idea and she wanted to prove that it was. 215 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,800 So we crept away to a hotel room so I could test her psychics skills. 216 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,800 So I'm going to write something down and keep it secret from you. 217 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800 You need to do it now. 218 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Okay, I'm going to do it now. 219 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,800 So I'm going to go to that table over there and do it. 220 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Just you know, don't show me what you're going to write down. 221 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:08,800 I thought it might be an interesting opportunity to get one crazy branch of Alan Dulles' CIA to spy on another crazy branch of Alan Dulles' CIA. 222 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:15,800 So I wrote, what happened to Frank Olson when they spiked his drink with LSD in 1953? 223 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,800 I put the piece of paper in my pocket and nobody saw what I had written. 224 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:40,800 Okay, I focused on one of the people. 225 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 He has a headache or something like a head pain. 226 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,800 It doesn't stop hurting. 227 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Like something feels swollen to him. 228 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,800 Like his head feels like it will explode. 229 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,800 He's really uncomfortable but it keeps walking like a zombie or something. 230 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,800 It just feels really weird. 231 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Like zombie, like his head just hurts. 232 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Like someone stuck something in his head. 233 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,800 It doesn't make any sense. 234 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Someone stuck something in his head? 235 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Yeah, but I know it doesn't make sense but that's what it is. 236 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Someone stuck something in his head. 237 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:23,800 It is very like dreamlike. 238 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Like a zombie? 239 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Like he couldn't think. 240 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,800 He just had one thing on his mind. 241 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 It's like a buzzy electric, you know? 242 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Like buzzy electric? 243 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Buzzy electric. 244 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 It's like it's buzzy. 245 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,800 It's buzzy and it makes his head feel just huge. 246 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,800 It's buzzy. 247 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800 He feels dreamy and spacey too, doesn't it? 248 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Totally dreamy and spacey. 249 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,800 Like a zombie. 250 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Like totally like a zombie. 251 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Only like has bits and pieces of memory of this. 252 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,800 Like getting in his head. 253 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,800 Why'd they put something in his head? 254 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,800 And there's something really brown about him. 255 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800 I was extremely impressed. 256 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800 I hadn't mentioned his name. 257 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800 I hadn't mentioned LSD but said nothing. 258 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,800 Is it time for me to tell you? 259 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Yeah. 260 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Olson. 261 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,800 Olson? 262 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 He's the guy who jumped out the window. 263 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Is that the American history that occurred? 264 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,800 This was the CIA thing. 265 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Yeah, just the CIA thing. 266 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800 I never heard of that. 267 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,800 Wow. 268 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,800 This was the CIA was like... 269 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800 No wonder he was like a zombie and totally tripping out. 270 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,800 And he was like... 271 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800 And every time I'd look through his eyes, 272 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800 everything was brown to me. 273 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,800 It was like really freaky. 274 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800 He didn't get a submarine underwater. 275 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,800 He didn't get a plate of fresh green dried tomatoes. 276 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,800 That's right. 277 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,800 He got a dead guy in his head and made him a zombie. 278 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800 But I'm glad it worked. 279 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800 It always works. 280 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:00,800 It was an extremely impressive psychic vision of a bad LSD trip, 281 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800 but there was just one thing. 282 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,800 The man who lives in this house was Frank Olson's closest friend 283 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,800 from the CIA days. 284 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Did you see him after he'd been given the LSD? 285 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,800 Yes. 286 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,800 We joked about it to some extent. 287 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,800 What did he say? 288 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 What he just said, you know, they're trying to find out 289 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,800 what kind of a guy he was. 290 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,800 They're trying to find out what kind of a guy I am 291 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,800 and whether or not I'm giving secrets away. 292 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,800 So you were joking about it. 293 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,800 He joked about it because he didn't react to LSD. 294 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,800 What? He wasn't tripping at all. 295 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,800 So who was right? 296 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,800 Should we believe Prudence's psychic vision 297 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800 in which Frank did seem to be having a bad trip? 298 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Or should we believe Norman's story in which he didn't? 299 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Had Prudence somehow, weirdly, been remote viewing 300 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800 the myth of Frank Olson and not the reality? 301 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,800 So did he say, you'll never guess what they did. 302 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800 They'd put LSD in my drink? 303 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Yes, he told me. 304 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,800 How did he say it? 305 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Was he laughing about it? 306 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Yeah. 307 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Like the crazy things these people are doing? 308 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,800 I think it was more than that. 309 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,800 He really thought that they were picking on him now 310 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,800 because they thought he was the man who might give away the secrets. 311 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,800 But there was a particular thing that they were worried that he'd talk about. 312 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,800 No question about it. 313 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,800 Do you think I know what that particular specific thing was? 314 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,800 That's... boy, you are an artist. 315 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,800 That's a beautiful way of trying to get something from me 316 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800 that I don't want to talk about. 317 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800 The answer is I don't want to say anything. 318 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,800 If Norman was right and Frank didn't have a bad trip, 319 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,800 then why did he jump out of a window a week later? 320 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,800 What was the secret that Norman wouldn't tell me? 321 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,800 Yeah. 322 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Second thoughts this morning? 323 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,800 No. 324 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,800 No? 325 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800 I keep waiting for you to change your mind. 326 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,800 These are the questions that have been haunting Frank's son, Eric, 327 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 for the past 50 years. 328 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,800 A few years ago, Eric had his father's body exhumed. 329 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,800 Amazing part of this, I got to tell you, I saw Daddy, you know? 330 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,800 I saw him. 331 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,800 He was very well preserved in the sense that the body seemed really intact, first of all. 332 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,800 You could see that the legs had been broken. 333 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,800 And the color of everything was a kind of brownish, kind of leathery color. 334 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,800 The autopsy revealed that Frank Olson had been hit on the head 335 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,800 with something like the butt of a gun before he went out of the window. 336 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,800 He certainly did not jump out the window and God knows he didn't fall out. 337 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800 So what do you think did happen in that room? 338 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,800 I think it's quite clear that he was thrown out the window. 339 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,800 One day, Eric was looking at old home movies of his father. 340 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,800 He found another reel that he hadn't seen before, 341 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,800 that his father had shot in the summer before his death. 342 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,800 Eric never knew why his father had gone to Europe with some fellow CIA men, 343 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,800 but now he does know. 344 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,800 Didn't he come back from Europe looking very upset? 345 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Yeah, we talked about a week, ten days after he came back. 346 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,800 And I asked him, I said, what happened to you, Frank? 347 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,800 You look like you're, you look like you're seem awfully upset. 348 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,800 And he said, oh, you know, I want to go on further than that 349 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:42,800 because it devolves certain things which I don't think I'd like to talk about. 350 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,800 But Eric has had more luck with his father's old friend. 351 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Norman told Eric everything. 352 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,800 That's my father right there, that with him. 353 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,800 Yeah, that's him. 354 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,800 In comparison with these other guys from the CIA, he just has an open face. 355 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:05,800 I mean, basically this is a story about a guy who was a, you know, pretty, you know, 356 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800 had a kind of simple moral code, a kind of naive view of the world. 357 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,800 Just got way beyond his, I mean, he wasn't fundamentally a military guy 358 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,800 and he certainly wasn't somebody who could be involved in terminal interrogations. 359 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,800 And I think he just, he went through, you know, basically a moral crisis. 360 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,800 And it was, but he was in too deep and they couldn't let him out. 361 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:35,800 My father's colleague recently told me that this was what my father had gotten involved with 362 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,800 in many trips to Germany, these interrogations in which people died. 363 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,800 I mean, they were put, as my father's colleague put it, you know, 364 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,800 they didn't care whether people came out of this or not. 365 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,800 So they might survive, they might not, or they might be put to death, you know, at the end. 366 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,800 How, how were people dying when being interrogated? 367 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Because the methods were so extreme. 368 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,800 According to Norman Connoyer, Sidney Gottlieb and Alan Dulles were not just recruising psychics 369 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,800 and spiking people's drinks with LSD. 370 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,800 There was a third exotic mind warfare endeavor, 371 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,800 inventing new ways to torture Cold War detainees. 372 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,800 If what I've been told is true, this is what Frank was involved in, 373 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800 but he had a crisis of conscience and was going to tell the press, 374 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,800 so they pushed him out of the window. 375 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Now it's not a family story anymore. 376 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800 It's not about, you know, what happened to Eric's father. 377 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,800 It's about what does this story about Eric's father show us about, you know, 378 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,800 what was going on in the 50s and how that informs what's going on today. 379 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Thinking how much could have been different if he was alive to tell any of this, 380 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,800 the whole history of a lot of things would be different. 381 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800 And you can see a lot of that just in his face, actually. 382 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,800 It's fascinating, because most of these others have very tight, closed faces. 383 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800 And he doesn't. 384 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,800 I wondered, had Prudence gone to ground for similar reasons? 385 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Was she, like Frank Olson, a naive foot soldier talking to the press, 386 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800 getting out of her depth? 387 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,800 This is our record-breaking diesel concept car. 388 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,800 Record-breaking? 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437 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,800 That's it. 438 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,800 That's it. 439 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,800 That is it. 440 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Ever tried TKF? 441 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Stress-free wireless, only on a Thinkbad, 442 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800 with Intel Centrino mobile technology. 443 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800 You can enjoy creamy pinter bottingtons 444 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800 whenever you like with a new drab barrel. 445 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Stays fresh for up to 28 days once opened. 446 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Why do we call it the valley of tranquility? 447 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,800 Glenn Moranje would finishes, extra aged in different casks. 448 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Difficult to say. 449 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,800 Tranquility, with a hint of Portugal, Spain, or France. 450 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,800 A year after Prudence closed down her business, she called. 451 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,800 She said she was ready to tell me what had happened. 452 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,800 She said there was a terrible story from her past 453 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,800 that would explain everything. 454 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,800 She said the story begins in 1995, 455 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,800 before the world knew that the military psychic spies even existed. 456 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,800 Prudence was living in Atlanta then, designing websites. 457 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,800 She turned on the TV one night, 458 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,800 and this was how it all began. 459 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,800 A military man was on the screen. 460 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,800 And did he say he was like a real-life Obi-Wan Kenobi? 461 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,800 That's exactly the words he used. 462 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,800 He said that he was a real-life Obi-Wan Kenobi. 463 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,800 Working for the US military. 464 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,800 Working for the US military. 465 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,800 And until that moment, nobody really, 466 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,800 nobody knew that these people even existed. 467 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,800 Yeah, before this time, they had been completely kept secret. 468 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,800 The military man on TV revealed for the first time 469 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,800 that the army had psychic spies, 470 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,800 and that they could shoot anywhere in space and time. 471 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,800 He said they knew what terrorists were hiding, 472 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,800 and they knew that the Loch Ness Monster was actually a dinosaur's ghost. 473 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,800 He was one of the leaders of the unit, according to his story, 474 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,800 and he just didn't look like what you would expect. 475 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,800 He looked like a normal person. 476 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,800 He didn't look like he had super-secret powers. 477 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,800 What did he look like? 478 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,800 He was short and scrawny, 479 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:15,800 and he had this kind of crazy seherty from the 70s and this mustache. 480 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800 And what was his name? 481 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800 His name was Ed Dames. 482 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,800 I remembered why he was so excited about science fiction, 483 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,800 and I could learn how to do this, 484 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,800 and just like he learned how in the military, 485 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,800 then I could figure out all the things I need to know. 486 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,800 Were people cross with you? 487 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,800 Were people what? 488 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,800 Cross. 489 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,800 Did you say cross? 490 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,800 I rate angry? 491 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,800 Oh, you bet. 492 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,800 You bet. 493 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,800 The defense intelligence, he mounted an investigation. 494 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,800 Ed Dames. 495 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,800 You know, if anybody should have put a gag in his mouth, 496 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,800 that should have been the first one, 497 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,800 because he clearly was out talking when he should have been listening. 498 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800 Very upsetting, incidentally. 499 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,800 Why? 500 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,800 Well, he had taken the same oath I took. 501 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,800 Pussed his chest up and said, 502 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,800 I was one of them. 503 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,800 He wanted to be king. 504 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,800 There's no doubt about it. 505 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,800 You know? 506 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,800 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 507 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800 What was your motive for doing it? 508 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,800 Actually, I didn't have any motive. 509 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,800 I didn't have any motive at all. 510 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,800 Ed's rise to national celebrity was helped by the fact that 511 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,800 interview is sounded so beguiled by his military credentials 512 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,800 and startled by his psychic predictions. 513 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,800 Edward A. Dames, major US Army, retired now, 514 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,800 is a decorated military intelligence officer, 515 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,800 an original member of the US Army, 516 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,800 prototype remote viewing training program, 517 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,800 served as the training and operations officer 518 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,800 for the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychic Intelligence, 519 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,800 or PSIINT, collection unit. 520 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,800 Military acronyms sound truly mesmerizing. 521 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,800 Now, here's what, this is important, 522 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,800 and before everybody goes to bed, listen to this. 523 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,800 When you see a space shuttle, 524 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,800 one of our space shuttles being forced to come down and land 525 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,800 because of a meteor shower, 526 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,800 that is the beginning of the end. 527 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,800 That's the harbinger. 528 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800 Immediately after that, we'll begin some drastic 529 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,800 geophysical changes in the Earth, 530 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,800 eventually resulting in a wobble, 531 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,800 and possibly an entire pole shift. 532 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,800 There will be some who will live through this, Ed, 533 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,800 or will no one live through it? 534 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,800 No, we're looking at a couple of billion people, 535 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,800 they're going to get criss-t-t-t. 536 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,800 Oh, the Art Bell Show. 537 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,800 Coast to coast radio is the name of the show, 538 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,800 and Art Bell had the biggest paranormal news radio show 539 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800 in the whole country, probably the world, 540 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,800 and they talk about big-foot sightings. 541 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,800 And in the middle of this, there was suddenly a major 542 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800 from the US Army with, you know, top-level clearance. 543 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,800 Yeah, Ed Dames immediately became one of Art Bell's 544 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,800 very favorite, very favorite interviewees of all time. 545 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,800 I liked him the first time I did the show, 546 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,800 and he helped me business-wise to sell my products on his show, 547 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,800 so I'm very grateful for him to do that, 548 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,800 and it's a mutually beneficial relationship. 549 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800 It must have sounded to some listeners as if they were 550 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800 almost eavesdropping on a top-level meeting inside the Pentagon 551 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,800 listening to Ed Dames and Art Bell. 552 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,800 Yeah, yeah. 553 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,800 It sounded real, and he would back it all up with all, 554 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,800 all everything that had been done in the military, 555 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,800 so it made sense. 556 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,800 I can't help thinking that if one of Ed's less colorful, 557 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,800 former military psychic colleagues had decided to spill the beans instead, 558 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,800 all the terrible things that happened next might have been averted. 559 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,800 Ed retired from the Army and set up a psychic spying school 560 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,800 for civilians. 561 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Until then, the psychic craziness had remained covert 562 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,800 and controlled a military secret that never left Army bases. 563 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,800 Now it was out in the private sector, 564 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,800 and it was spreading uncontrolled across America. 565 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,800 Let's say the vertical object on this particular table. 566 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,800 Ed was convinced that pregnant Martians were about to unleash 567 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,800 a virus that would destroy all life on Earth. 568 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,800 This kind of belief was attractive to swathes of the American public, 569 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,800 especially because Ed was a military man and consequently trustworthy. 570 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,800 If you wanted to learn remote viewing, you had to learn from Ed Dames. 571 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800 None of the other military guys were training at that time. 572 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,800 Ed, I tried to take training with him first, 573 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,800 but he was book-solid for two years. 574 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,800 Everybody wanted to be a psychic spy. 575 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,800 And so Courtney Brown started training in Atlanta, 576 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,800 and I was in Atlanta, so it just was amazing to me. 577 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,800 I was in the same city where you could get the only other training 578 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,800 in remote viewing, and so I signed up right away. 579 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,800 Courtney Brown was, I guess you'd call, 580 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,800 basically a third-generation remote viewer. 581 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,800 He had learned from Ed Dames, who had learned from Ngo Suan. 582 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,800 But you know, when you take a videotape and you record it, 583 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,800 and then you copy it, and then you copy the copy, and then you copy the copy, 584 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,800 you tend to get some additional things in the picture, right? 585 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,800 I met Courtney Brown at a conference in Atlanta. 586 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,800 He approached me and was intensely interested in remote viewing 587 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,800 and became one of my first commercial students in a week-long course, 588 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,800 upon which he formed his own institute and began teaching himself. 589 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,800 Courtney Brown's credentials were impressive. 590 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,800 He may not have been a top-level military spy like his mentor Ed Dames, 591 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,800 but he was a university lecturer in political science. 592 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,800 He and Prudence became best friends and psychic partners, 593 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,800 remote viewing aliens at their own training school called the Farsight Institute. 594 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,800 I mean, we looked at so many alien things that it became a way of life at the Farsight Institute. 595 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,800 We loved alien things. I still love alien things to this day. 596 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,800 No matter what we began to look at, we began to find aliens there, 597 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800 and who's to say that they aren't? 598 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:43,800 In the autumn of 1996, Prudence and Courtney were sent this photograph of the Hale-Bopp Comet. 599 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,800 It was taken by an amateur astronomer friend of Prudence called Chuck Schrammack. 600 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,800 There seemed to be a strange glitch in the photograph, 601 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:58,800 and Chuck thought it might be interesting for Prudence and Courtney to psychically spy the glitch. 602 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,800 And so we remote viewed it and found that it was artificial, that it wasn't a double nucleus, 603 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:13,800 it wasn't a mistake on his camera, it was an actual object, and it was alien in origin. 604 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,800 And so we were so excited, Courtney got on our bill right away 605 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,800 and started telling the world about this that we had seen. 606 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,800 Well, Professor, what the hell is that? 607 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,800 I am willing to tell you. 608 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,800 Tell me. 609 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,800 Now the information I'm going to give you is so far-reaching, so incredible, 610 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,800 that you're going to be saying, how could this be? 611 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,800 I'm a professor. The people here that work with me, many of them, I have PhDs. 612 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:47,800 This object is four times, approximately four times, the size of the planet Earth, and it's headed our way. 613 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,800 It's apparently, it has tunnels in it, and it is apparently moving in artificial music. 614 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,800 It's under control. 615 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,800 It's sending us a message. It's trying to get us a message right now, is that correct? 616 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,800 That's exactly correct. 617 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,800 Courtney Brown told Art Bell's listeners that the object in the tale of the Hailbop Comet 618 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:14,800 was like the monolith from 2001. Art Bell's listeners had gone crazy for Ed Dames, 619 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,800 but these ideas were even more entrancing for them. 620 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,800 There are more of them coming. 621 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,800 My lord. 622 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,800 What? 623 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,800 My lord. 624 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,800 There are more of these coming? 625 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,800 Apparently. 626 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,800 This is not a fake war of the world's broadcast. 627 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800 And I'm not sure what it is right now. 628 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,800 And so I want to caution you all that we're dealing with breaking news. 629 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,800 And so please, please bear with us. 630 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,800 I want to do this as responsibly as I can here in a moment. 631 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,800 This is not a fake war of the world's broadcast. 632 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,800 Art, this one is real. 633 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,800 Doctor, hold it right there. 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687 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,800 Could this, you know, take us where we wanna go? 688 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,800 And they got the standard, thank you for your interest in Fireside Institute. 689 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,800 Here's our upcoming class schedule. 690 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:52,800 We're so excited, we don't know what to do, because we're about to re-enter the level above human. 691 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,800 The Heavens Gate Colt in San Diego were Art Bell fans. 692 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,800 They'd been wondering how to enter the level above human for years, but didn't know how to do it. 693 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,800 As they listened to the Art Bell show that night, it all made sense to them. 694 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,800 Now, if you would hold your patch, maybe we can zoom in on the patch. 695 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,800 Great, there we go. 696 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,800 See, it says Heavens Gate Awaiting. 697 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,800 And that's exactly what that means to us. 698 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,800 We've been away and now we're going back. 699 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,800 On the night that the Hailbop Comet drew close enough to Earth to be seen with the naked eye, 700 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:39,800 Prudence stood on a balcony of a holiday inn in Atlanta, and she saw that there was no spaceship in its tail. 701 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,800 I was just staring at it, it was so beautiful. 702 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:48,800 And I was just getting ready for the class, just wondering, you know, what was all that Hailbop stuff about anyway? 703 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,800 Trying to figure it out, we were trying to figure out where the companion object came into view wasn't there. 704 00:50:52,800 --> 00:51:00,800 And then one of the other teachers in this class came running up the stairs with the newspaper that had just come out, 705 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,800 and it was huge headlines, full pictures everywhere about the Heavens Gate Colt group in Rancho Santa Fe. 706 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,800 And they showed pictures of the leader and pictures of all these people that had just killed themselves, 707 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,800 because they believed they were going to join the companion object to the comet. 708 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:29,800 39 people killed themselves so they could hitch a ride on Prudence and Courtney's Hailbop companion. 709 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,800 It was awful, it was very sad, I just felt so terrible. 710 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,800 All these people, it was very emotional. 711 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,800 It's a helpless kind of feeling because you want to help somehow, but there's nothing you can do. 712 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,800 It's a sort of stressful thing to talk about, I'm not really sure what to say. 713 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,800 I don't know what to ask. 714 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,800 Yeah, it was awful. 715 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:13,800 I mean, I guess you weren't to know that all the excitement would lead to a mass suicide. 716 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,800 Yeah, you'd think, well, you're a mob, you should have figured that out ahead of time. 717 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,800 I wondered if I was going to survive as a business entity after I heard Courtney. 718 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,800 After you heard Courtney Brown? 719 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:37,800 Yeah, I wasn't sure what that would do to the future of remote viewing as a valid enterprise. 720 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:43,800 Prudence's psychic spying business suffered quite a blow as a result of the mass suicides, 721 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:50,800 but needs must and post 9-11 she was back in business predicting future terrorist attacks for the FBI. 722 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,800 And then I met her for the first time and she indiscreetly told me, London. 723 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,800 We're surely not fucking in the palace. 724 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,800 I might tell you off camera. 725 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:16,800 Now Prudence tells me, London Zoo is about to be hit by a dirty bomb, so powerful it will knock over the nearby BT Tower. 726 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:23,800 Prudence says she knows this because when she and her team psychically spied the impending dirty bomb, 727 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,800 they could feel the pain of the elephants. 728 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,800 The elephants were screaming in agony, Prudence says. 729 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:38,800 It was a frightening thing to hear and I continued to be frightened for a few months until I discovered the following information. 730 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:47,800 And London Zoo's elephants pack their trunks to enjoy life in the leafy home counties. 731 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:53,800 The three girls from the city have left their regents park base for a new life in the countryside. 732 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:59,800 How could the elephants be collateral damage in a London Zoo dirty bomb when the elephants, 733 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,800 six months prior to Prudence's vision, had all been moved to whip snade. 734 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,800 Prudence said the dirty bomb would definitely explode sometime before Christmas 2003 735 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,800 and frankly it was a relief to discover there was all just psychic nonsense. 736 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,800 Prudence is getting death threats from unknown military intelligence people, she says. 737 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,800 This is why she's closed down her business. 738 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,800 There have been phone calls calling her a mass murderer responsible for the 39 suicides 739 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,800 and implying that she would die too if she carried on telling journalists like me 740 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,800 the details of her war on terror psychic work. 741 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,800 You know, threatening phone calls saying you better stop what you're doing, click, 742 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:50,800 people following you on the street, people running up and taking strange pictures of you when you're in a public place. 743 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,800 That happens to you. 744 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,800 That happens all the time to this day. 745 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,800 I can't prove that Prudence is really under attack 746 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,800 and I can't prove that the psychics are having a palpable impact on the war on terror. 747 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,800 But when intelligence agents have sent out to talent spot clairvoyance 748 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,800 and when the last great war, the Cold War, relied heavily on psychic data 749 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,800 it is presumable that the psychics are having some impact on this war. 750 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,800 Crazy psychic predictions influencing a crazy intelligence network 751 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,800 and turning the American people crazy. 752 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,800 Recent intelligence reports suggest that Al Qaeda leaders have emphasized 753 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:42,800 planning for attacks on apartment buildings, hotels and other soft or lightly secured targets in the United States. 754 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,800 Since 9-11, have they done any specific works? 755 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,800 I can't confirm or deny that. 756 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,800 And you couldn't confirm or deny which agency it may or may not have been. 757 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,800 Okay. 758 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,800 I am inclined to believe that Prudence is receiving death threats from intelligence people 759 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,800 involved in classified paranormal pursuits. 760 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,800 These supernatural endeavors may be funny to us, but they aren't funny to them. 761 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,800 Sometimes it can be hard to give up a funny story, 762 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:25,800 replace it with a story that's not fun, as Eric Olsen has discovered to his cost. 763 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:32,800 An LSD suicide story is considered strange and wonderful, as CIA murder story is not. 764 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,800 Eric Olsen is ready to charge at a news conference tomorrow 765 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,800 that the story of the suicide plunge makes no sense 766 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,800 and that his father was killed to silence him about the lethal activities he'd been involved in, 767 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,800 and programs codenamed MKUltra. 768 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,800 Dr. Olsen may not have the whole story. 769 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,800 The pity is that the government is late on his secrets remain so tight 770 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,800 that we may never know the whole story. 771 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,800 Don't go there. 772 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,800 This is Daniel Shaw. 773 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,800 Don't go there, Dan. 774 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800 See, that's what they want to do. 775 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,800 Oh, we never know the whole story, you know? 776 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,800 And there's so much comfort they take in that. 777 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,800 Bullshit. No, it's bullshit. 778 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,800 Yeah, yeah. 779 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,800 People have been so brainwashed by fiction, you know, the Tom Clancy kind of thing 780 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,800 that they think we know this stuff, we know the CIA does this and so on. 781 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,800 Actually, we know nothing of this, you know? 782 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800 There's no case of this. 783 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,800 And this is all this fictional stuff is like an immunization against reality 784 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,800 and makes people think they know things that they don't know 785 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,800 and it enables them to have a kind of superficial, you know, quasi-sophistication and cynicism 786 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,800 which is, you know, just a thin layer beyond which, you know, they're not cynical at all. 787 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,800 Frank Olson did not die because he was a murderer. 788 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,800 Eric did give a press conference the next day saying his father was not an LSD suicide 789 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,800 but a CIA murder victim. 790 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,800 But most of the journalists present reported it as a human interest story 791 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:09,800 focusing on Eric's healing process and so the story was fun again. 792 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,800 Throughout this series, we've looked at paranormal experiments conducted by the US military 793 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800 during the past three decades. 794 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,800 Often the intentions behind them are honourable 795 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,800 and the experiments seem funny until they are implemented. 796 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,800 In this series, the men who stare at goats is available in shops now priced 16.99. 797 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,800 Coming up, Hugh Grant is late for a very important date, the first of many, in four weddings and a funeral.